Potential Resource-Pages about "Age of the Earth" Geology

This is a temporary page.  It's intended to be useful during the process of selecting useful pages for the Origins Questions website (*), but it will also be useful if you just want to learn about the topics.    {* If you want to be part of the "process of selecting" by evaluating pages and providing feedback, read the reviewer's page.}

Here are some VIEWING TIPS:
to improve your understanding, read pages in both columns, left (young earth) and right (old earth);
if you use a smaller font size, the two-column table will behave better in your browser;
italicized links are inside-the-page, non-italicized links open a new page in a new window;
AIG-linked is a non-AIG page linked to by AIG, AIG-YE-claim is in AIG's page for Young Age Evidence;
words in [square brackets] are my page-description (not their page-title) or my editorial comments;
titles in brown (on left side) were chosen by Ashby Camp for his links-page at TrueOrigins.org, and
titles in green & purple (on right side) are brief responses from Neyman & Isaak, as explained here.

Within each section, pages are organized using multiple criteria: SIZE (shorter pages are earlier) plus READABILITY and/or VISUAL APPEAL (better is earlier), QUALITY (based on my quick non-expert evaluations; better pages are earlier, but this is often trumped by other factors), SOURCE (for example, YE pages by ICR and AIG are usually early, since they're prominent YE organizations), and SUB-TOPIC or AUTHOR (by grouping these pages together).

more age-science: There are similar two-column pageslisting "potential resources" for Noah's Flood and Radiometric Dating and Astronomy.

TOPIC-CATEGORIES in this page: Overviews Hybrid Geology Claims & Responses   —   Scientific Methods   —   Carbonates Coral Reefs Caves Stalactites   —   Geological Column Stratigraphy OverThrust Deformation Unconformities Seismic Data Metamorphism Sandstone & Shale Igneous-Sedimentary Clastic Dikes Layers with Details Paleosols Evaporites Sed-Experiments Varves Grand Canyon Canyon Formation Fast Canyons Mt Saint Helens Volcanic Islands Volcanos Basalt Geology Volcanic Dikes Granite   —   Gems Coal Oil Niagara Falls Erosion Ocean Sediment Ocean Salt Helium   —   Noah's Flood Flood Water Vapor Canopy Plate Tectonics Flood Volcanos Meteors Fish & Plants Ice Age Ice Cores   —   Tree Rings Magnetic Field DNA Dating Population Growth   —   Fossils Overview Rapid Rocks Fossil Forests Rapid Burials Polystrate Fossils Fossil Graveyards Seashells on Mountains Grand Canyon Fossils Small-Fossil Patterns Patterns in Fossils Pollen in Old Rocks Organics in Old Rocks Bacteria in Old Salt DNA in Old Rocks Dinosaur Footprints Paluxy Tracks Human Fossils Humans & Dinos Dinosaurs Living Fossils/Dinos Dinosaur Extinction Mammoths The current links-sections for Geology — underdeveloped and needing expansion — is inside Age of the Earth - Scientific Evidence.
YOUNG-EARTH VIEWS	OLD-EARTH VIEWS
overviews of YE geology — YE claims & debates • J.Morris - [geology in Creation Week] http://icr.org/article/507/10/ and [geology during the Flood] http://icr.org/article/506/12/ • Walker - Biblical Geology [12-pages series] http://biblicalgeology.net/content/view/46/43/ • Camp - [summary of major book by Kurt Wise] * http://creationresearch.org/creation_matters/pdf/2002/cm07%2005a.pdf multiple YE claims • Humphreys - [astronomy, geology, radiometric,...] http://icr.org/article/1842/ • Wieland - mainly geology] http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v23/i1/howold.asp • Sarfati - [geology, radiometric,...] [Ch 8 of Refuting Evolution] http://answersingenesis.org/home/area/re1/chapter8.asp Gish - [summary: "age" is in Parts 5 & 6] http://icr.org/article/177/ Roth - [erosion rates (in 1-4) & more] http://grisda.org/origins/13064.htm AIG - [review of "Evolving Planet" exhibit] http://answersingenesis.org/docs2006/0429evolving-planet.asp Vardiman - [post-RATE research at ICR] http://icr.org/article/2468/6/ debates about YE "flood geology" models Wise & Snelling, Pre-Flood/Flood Boundary in Grand Canyon [an example of questions about “what happened” in Creation Week and during Flood] * http://grisda.org/origins/58007.pdf Tyler, Flood Models & Trends in Creationist Thinking * [in top half of page] http://creationresearch.org/creation_matters/97/cm9705.html#Trends McIntosh, Edmondson, & Taylor [two papers in TJ, re: debates among YEs] -- Flood Models: the need for an integrated approach * http://answersingenesis.org/home/area/magazines/tj/docs/14n1flood_models.asp and The Flood as the Major Biblical Cataclysm * http://answersingenesis.org/tj/v14/i1/catastrophe.asp • Chadwick, A Creation/Flood Model * http://origins.swau.edu/papers/global/chadwick/default.html Noel & Noel, A Scientific Paradigm for the Genesis Flood * [long] http://www.bibleonly.org/gen/JATSFlood.PDF also check "Plate Tectonics" section for flood models	overviews of scientific geology — with multiple OE claims The earth is 6,000-10,000 years old. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CH/CH210.html • Roberts - 15 geology-pages in 3 files: http://lordibelieve.org/time/age1.PDF http://lordibelieve.org/time/age2.PDF http://lordibelieve.org/time/age3.PDF plus pages 16-25 (...age4.PDF) in "radiometric" section, 26-34 in "plate tectonics", and 35-41 in the "astronomy" page, and cover http://lordibelieve.org/time/AgeEarthcover.PDF foreword & bibliography http://lordibelieve.org/time/AgeEarthforeword.PDF & Table of Contents http://lordibelieve.org/time/AgeEarthTOC.PDF Roberts - Flood Geology http://lordibelieve.org/floodgeology.doc Roberts - (5 powerpoint files) http://lordibelieve.org/PU01/ Neyman - YE geology & stratigraphy [5 parts, 123 are Grand Canyon, plus some GC in 45, so is also in GC section of page] http://answersincreation.org/stratigraphy.htm Neyman - review of AIG's "Answer Book" (parts of this are in the relevant topic-sections) http://answersincreation.org/abr.htm Don Stoner [book, Ch 5 is "multiple supports for OE", nice intro + variety of topics, but lots about "moon dust" that is now strawman since AIG agrees and rejects it] http://answers.org/newlook/NLCHPTR5.HTM USGS [basic principles, not YE-focused] http://pubs.usgs.gov/gip/geotime/contents.html TO-faq Stassen - Age of Earth [OE radiometric, and responses to YE claims] http://talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-age-of-earth.html TO-faq MacRae - The Geological Time Scale - http://talkorigins.org/faqs/timescale.html Jones - theology/science overview http://members.iinet.net.au/%7Esejones/yngearth.html Jones - geo-timescale table http://members.iinet.net.au/%7Esejones/gltmsc00.html Deem? [distant starlight + list of phenomena with minimum ages] http://godandscience.org/youngearth/ageofuniverse.html Young, Davis A. -- How Old Is It? How Do We Know? A Review of Dating Methods -- Part 1: Relative Dating, Absolute Dating, and Non-radiometric Dating Methods -- http://asa3.org/ASA/PSCF/2006/PSCF12-06Young.pdf Part 2 - radiometric (isochrons,...) March-2007 [not online yet] , Part 3 in June-2007 Gore - http://www.gpc.edu/~pgore/geology/geo102/agea.htm Wise [history-etc] - http://members.aol.com/dwise1/cre_ev/geology.html • Wonderly - The Date of Creation: Bible-Compatible Evidences for Great Age http://ibri.org/DVD-1/Papers/Creation_Date/CreationDate.htm Wonderly [online book] - Neglect of Geological Data -- http://ibri.org/DVD-4/Books/Wonderly-Neglect/Wonderly-Neglect.htm Neglect of Geologic Data: Sedimentary Strata Compared with Young-Earth Creationist Writings. http://asa3.org/ASA/resources/Wonderly2006.pdf Wonderly [online book] - God's Time-Records in Ancient Sediments:  Evidences of Long Time Spans in Earth's History. http://ibri.org/DVD-4/Daniel.E.Wonderly/Daniel.E.Wonderly.html
uniformitarian & catastrophism Austin, Did Landscapes Evolve? * http://icr.org/article/211/ H.Morris - Biblical Uniformitarianism http://icr.org/article/860/6/ Oard - The story that won't be told [about the Lake Missoula flood] [an interesting commentary on history of science, especially if supplemented by non-YE histories] http://answersingenesis.org/docs2003/1209missoula.asp Snelling - Iceland’s recent ‘mega-flood’ http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v21/i3/iceland.asp	modern geology is a hybrid — uniformitarian plus catastrophic • Uniformitarian assumption is untenable. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CD/CD200.html Many geologic features are catastrophic in origin http://answersincreation.org/argument/G321_creation_science.htm The Flood shaped the earth's surface in other ways. [but YECs will say "so what?" because "Noah's Flood [as they propose] wasn't like scablands flood"] http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CH/CH580.html Lindsay - http://don-lindsay-archive.org/creation/uniform.html Neyman - Catastrophism or Uniformitarianism? http://answersincreation.org/catastrophism.htm • Neyman - #1 http://answersincreation.org/mountsainthelens.htm [this is from section for "Mt St Helens"]
YE responses to multiple OE claims Walker - Geology and the Young Earth [response to OE claims] AIG-YE-claim http://biblicalgeology.net/content/view/29/39/ and • http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v21/i4/geology.asp [these are almost same, but second page has ad hominem introduction attacking Hayward (who currently is not a major figure in origins) and references at end] Sarfati - Problems with a Global Flood? [response to Mark Isaak] http://trueorigin.org/arkdefen.asp • dialogue — OE and YE 1. TO-faq by Isaak (OE) - Problems with a Global Flood http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-noahs-ark.html 2. Sarfati (YE) - [re: response to Isaak] http://www.trueorigin.org/arkdefen.asp 3. Henke (OE) - [re: Sarfati, is mainly flood geology, while Isaak & Sarfati focused mainly on things like the ark & animals] http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Thebes/7755/henke/krh-floodnonsense.html internet debate on TalkOrigins Age of the Earth — Debate: Chris Stassen (OE) & Bob Bales (YE) http://talkorigins.org/faqs/debate-age-of-earth.html	OE responses to multiple YE-claims Most topic sections have brief responses from AnswersInCreation (in green) and TalkOrigins (in purple) for YE claims in their own two lists: http://answersincreation.org/young_earth_creationist_argument_index.htm http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/list.html Tiscareno - http://www.godandscience.org/youngearth/yeclaims.php also is at http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/~matthewt/yeclaimsbeta.html Morton - http://home.entouch.net/dmd/age.htm Morton - 12 False Statements by Anti-Evolutionary Apologists [it mixes questions about WHEN and HOW] http://home.entouch.net/dmd/wrong.htm TO-faq Matson [re: Hovind's YE-list] -- homepage (with table of contents) http://talkorigins.org/faqs/hovind/howgood.html and main-1 http://talkorigins.org/faqs/hovind/howgood-yea.html main-2 http://talkorigins.org/faqs/hovind/howgood-yea2.html geo-column http://talkorigins.org/faqs/hovind/howgood-gc.html carbon-14 http://talkorigins.org/faqs/hovind/howgood-c14.html more-age http://talkorigins.org/faqs/hovind/howgood-add.html more-evoln http://talkorigins.org/faqs/hovind/howgood-misc.html Matson (another Hovind-list) http://www.kent-hovind.com/matson/proofs.htm Neyman - (re: more Hovind, by Malone) http://answersincreation.org/rebuttal/cse/cse_young_earth.htm Deem - "All of the 'scientific' evidence for a young earth suffer from one of the following flaws: faulty assumptions; use of faulty data; avoidance of data that refutes the position."
THE TWO BOOKS OF GOD (links-page) — http://www.asa3.org/ASA/education/origins/twobooks2.htm
Logical Scientific Methods Ham - A Young Earth: it's not the issue! [is authority of Bible] http://answersingenesis.org/docs/1866.asp Ham - [seeing through a "Secular Lens & Biblical Lens" produces OE & YE science] http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/overheads/pages/oh20020809_131.asp J.Morris - Can scientists study the past? http://www.icr.org/article/1110 Wiebe - Parable of the Candle [re: two books & apparent age] http://answersingenesis.org/docs/1247.asp Sherwin - Follow the Evidence! [scientists should do this] [ed: contrast this with Neyman's "Creation Scientists??"] http://icr.org/article/3229/105/ Mortenson - What is the most compelling scientific evidence of a young earth? [re: apologetics] http://answersingenesis.org/home/area/feedback/2006/0303.asp Hoesch - The Prestige of Historical Geology http://icr.org/article/3230/105/ Ham - [museum: storytelling in science] http://answersingenesis.org/docs2006/0501discover.asp Ham - [pomo science for Grand Canyon] http://icr.org/article/685/109/	Logical Scientific Methods Neyman - Empirical Evidence, or Ignorant Bliss? [ed: good overview] http://answersincreation.org/commentary/evidence_csc5.htm Neyman - YE Scientist?? [YECs are biased, use science but are not open-minded scientists] http://answersincreation.org/commentary/scientist_csc3.htm Morton - Morton's Demon [when he was YE he ignored all OE-evidence] http://answersincreation.org/mortond.htm Neyman - Romans 1:20, Clear Support for an Old Earth [YECs ignore clear evidence from nature] http://answersincreation.org/romans120.htm Neyman - The Grand Tetons [geologists don't date by "looks"] [ed: is about minor YE-author] http://answersincreation.org/rebuttal/other/sdc/sdc_grand_tetons.htm Neyman - [non-open] [need focus instead of shotgun approach] [ed: is about minor author] http://answersincreation.org/rebuttal/aig/daily/2006/20060524_salt.htm
limestone - CaCO3 carbonates AIG - [lime mud & limestone] http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v17/i3/limestone.asp Snelling - Can flood geology explain thick chalk layers? * http://answersingenesis.org/tj/v8/i1/chalk.asp Walker [response to Wilson's letter] * http://answersingenesis.org/home/area/feedback/negative13-mar-2001.asp Austin [lime muds & fossil refs] * AIG-linked http://icr.org/article/337/ Roth - [shell-sediments in deep ocean] * in short version [at bottom of page] http://grisda.org/origins/12003.htm#Roth and long version http://grisda.org/origins/12048.htm [Roth's pages are also in Ocean Sediments along with two pages by/about Vardiman]	limestone chalk-hardgrounds (CaCO3 carbonates) Limestone and dolomite layers are too extensive for normal deposition http://answersincreation.org/argument/G324_creation_science.htm Limestone and dolomite layers are too extensive for normal deposition. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CD/CD203.html Morton - not enough carbonate http://home.entouch.net/dmd/limehash.htm Neyman - no carbonate http://answersincreation.org/nochalk.htm Wonderly [hardgrounds] + Wilson [geo-details in letter to AIG] http://www.geocities.com/earthhistory/hg.htm
coral reefs Weston - Coral [biology]: animal, vegetable and mineral AIG-YE-claim http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v25/i1/coral.asp#tale AIG - How long does a coral reef take to grow? AIG-YE-claim http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v14/i1/coral_reef.asp Walker - Not ancient 'reefs' but catastrophic deposits AIG-YE-claim http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v25/i1/catastrophic.asp Roth-1995, Fossil Reefs and Time * http://grisda.org/origins/22086.htm Roth-1979, Coral Reef Growth * AIG-YE-claim http://grisda.org/origins/06088.htm Hodges, Fossil Binding in Modern and Ancient Reefs * http://grisda.org/origins/14084.htm	coral reefs Coral reef growth has been exaggerated by a factor of 40 http://answersincreation.org/argument/E62_creation_science.htm Phillips - Coral Reefs... http://ibri.org/DVD-1/Tracts/reefstct.htm Phillips - [coral & earth rotation] http://ibri.org/DVD-1/Tracts/tidaltct.htm Lindsay - [coral & mooncycles] http://don-lindsay-archive.org/creation/coral.html Poropudas - Using Coral as a Clock [technical, may need a cover-page to provide an overview and guide a reader through it, IF it's considered worthwhile] http://don-lindsay-archive.org/creation/coral-clocks.txt Wonderly - Coral Reefs... http://ibri.org/DVD-4/RRs/RR016/16coral.htm this 1983 paper was preceded by a 1981, which is in a web-format that's awkward to use and (by modem) is very slow http://ibri.org/DVD-4/Daniel.E.Wonderly/81-CoralReef/README.htm Wonderly - [pre-flood limestone/coral] http://ibri.org/DVD-4/Daniel.E.Wonderly/89-PriorFlood/README.htm EH - Reefs [re: Roth-1995 at left] http://www.geocities.com/earthhistory/roth.htm EH - Reefs and YEC http://www.geocities.com/earthhistory/reef.htm EH - Microbolites [reefs] http://www.geocities.com/earthhistory/newstrom.htm Morton - hot anhydrites [ed: is this important?] http://home.entouch.net/dmd/hot.htm
limestone caves Doolan & Snelling,... - Limestone Caves * http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v9/i4/caves.asp Oard - Rapid Cave Formation by Sulfuric Acid Dissolution * http://answersingenesis.org/tj/v12/i3/cave.asp Silvestru - Caves for all seasons http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v25/i3/caves.asp Austin, Origin of Limestone Caves * AIG-linked http://icr.org/indexarticle/161	limestone caves Neyman - [re: Doolan & Snelling at left] http://answersincreation.org/rebuttal/magazines/Creation/1987/caves.htm Neyman - [re: Oard at left] http://answersincreation.org/sulfuric.htm Morton - caves in Texas http://home.entouch.net/dmd/ellenburger.htm
stalactites & stalagmites Wieland - Caving in to reality http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v20/i1/caving_in.asp Meyers & Doolan - Rapid Stalactites? http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v9/i4/stalactites.asp AIG - Bottle stalagmite http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v17/i2/stalagmite.asp Batten - ‘Instant’ stalagmites http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v19/i4/stalagmites.asp Jamieson - Do ancient stalactites really exist? http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v16/i1/stalactites.asp	stalactites & stalagmites Stalactites can grow very rapidly http://answersincreation.org/argument/G351_creation_science.htm Stalactites can grow very rapidly. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CD/CD250.html
geological column J.Morris - [YE theory for Geologic Strata] AIG-linked http://icr.org/article/2478/107/ Austin - Ten Misconceptions about the GC http://icr.org/article/242/107/ Woodmorappe, The GeoC: Does It Exist? * AIG-linked http://trueorigin.org/geocolumn.asp Pitman, [long overview with many YE claims] * http://naturalselection.0catch.com/Files/geologiccolumn.html Froede & Reed - Assessing Creationist Stratigraphy with Evidence from the Gulf of Mexico http://trueorigin.org/cfjrgulf.asp	geological column The geologic column was deposited by the Flood http://answersincreation.org/argument/N4311_creation_science.htm The geologic column was deposited by the Flood. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CH/CH550.html Entire geological column does not exist http://answersincreation.org/argument/G21_creation_science.htm Entire geological column does not exist. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CD/CD101.html The geological column is sometimes out of order http://answersincreation.org/argument/G22_creation_science.htm The geological column is sometimes out of order. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CD/CD102.html Experiments show that strata can violate principles of superposition. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CD/CD240.html The geologic column is based on the assumption of evolution http://answersincreation.org/argument/G23_creation_science.htm The geologic column is based on the assumption of evolution. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CD/CD103.html Meteor craters are never found in deeper strata. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CD/CD110.html Meteorites are never found in deeper strata. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CD/CD111.html TO by G.Morton - [entire GeoC in N.Dakota] http://talkorigins.org/faqs/geocolumn and a newer version (formating not as good, but includes 5 or 6 more "whole column" locations, http://home.entouch.net/dmd/geo.htm Morton - Can Reed & Froede Kill the Geologic Column? http://home.entouch.net/dmd/geo1.htm Neyman - [re: Reed & Froede] http://answersincreation.org/cstrat.htm
stratigraphy As explained at the right, maybe this topic-category should be eliminated. (or maybe other pages should be moved INTO it?) Froede - [YE stratigraphy model, as in Georgia] http://creationresearch.org/crsq/articles/42/42_2/tertiary_stratigraphy.htm	stratigraphy It's tough to categorize for this topic because it covers so much and so many pages could fit, but most "stratigraphy" pages can also be put into other categories, and they have been. (So should this topic be eliminated? and move Tanner into "overviews"?) • Tanner, William F., Real World Stratigraphy and the Noachian Flood - http://asa3.org/ASA/PSCF/1996/PSCF3-96Tanner.html
overthrust faults [ed: Do YE pages about this exist, and I just missed them? Or do YECs make claims about "out of order" rocks, but don't mention overthrusting because they want to deny it?]	overthrust faults Out-of-order strata occur at the Lewis Overthrust http://answersincreation.org/argument/G221_creation_science.htm Out-of-order strata occur at the Lewis Overthrust. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CD/CD102_1.html [description of Lewis overthrust] http://www.glacier.national-park.com/info.htm#geo TO (Hanes) - [how Lewis happened] - http://talkorigins.org/faqs/lewis-overthrust.html TO (Solum) - Thrust Faults & Lewis Overthrust - http://talkorigins.org/faqs/lewis ?? - [mis-quoting about Lewis] [this is part of a website-section about "Creationist Lies"] http://members.cox.net/ardipithecus/evol/lies/lie003.html GM - How Overthrusts Occur http://home.entouch.net/dmd/othrust.htm GM - [in Rockies & Appalachians] http://home.entouch.net/dmd/appalach.htm GM - [in Appalachians] http://home.entouch.net/dmd/appalach1.htm EH - [currently in Taiwan] http://www.geocities.com/earthhistory/thrust.htm
plastic deformation (folded rocks) Walker - [folded rocks in Grand Canyon] http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v25/i1/grandcanyon.asp Allen - Warped Earth http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v25/i1/warped.asp	plastic deformation (folded rocks) Folded rocks must have been soft when folded http://answersincreation.org/argument/G63_creation_science.htm Folded rocks must have been soft when folded. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CD/CD510.html Neyman - Truth About Plastic Deformation http://answersincreation.org/plasticdeformation.htm
erosion-gaps & unconformities Snelling - [missing gaps in Grand Canyon] http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v14/i3/time.asp Roth - [sed-gaps: unconformities...] * http://grisda.org/origins/15075.htm	erosion-gaps & unconformities Morton - [at Siccar Point] http://home.entouch.net/dmd/unconformity.htm
seismic data (re: sediments, faults, overthrusts,...)	seismic data (re: overthrusts, unconformities,...) seismic data & implications for global flood http://home.entouch.net/dmd/seismic.htm Seismic Data and the Age of the Earth http://home.entouch.net/dmd/seismic1.htm
metamorphic process Snelling - [rapid metamorphism in Flood] AIG-linked http://icr.org/article/2603/ Snelling, Regional Metamorphism... [and garnet formation] [July 1994 at conference] * http://icr.org/research/index/researchp_as_regionalmetamorphism/ Snelling, [...Regional Metamorphism] [April 1994 in TJ] http://answersingenesis.org/tj/v8/i1/metamorphism.asp	metamorphic process
sedimentary — sandstone & shale Snelling & Austin [Cococino dposition, footprints] * http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v15/i1/flood.asp Walker - Shifting sands http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v24/i1/shiftingsands.asp Walker - [Hutton & Siccar Point sandstone] http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v27/i1/icon.asp Walker - [Three Sisters] http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v25/i2/sisters.asp Froede - [source for Navajo Sandstone] http://www.answersingenesis.org/tj/v18/i2/sandstone.asp	sedimentary — sandstone, shale,... [this needs intro to define/explain sandstone & shale] Sandstone layers are too extensive for normal deposition http://answersincreation.org/argument/G322_creation_science.htm Shale layers are too extensive for normal deposition http://answersincreation.org/argument/G323_creation_science.htm Sandstone and shale layers are too extensive for normal deposition. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CD/CD202.html The Coconino Sandstone in the Grand Canyon is water-deposited http://answersincreation.org/argument/G311_creation_science.htm Coconino Sandstone was deposited underwater. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CC/CC365_1.html Neyman - The "Desert" Problem http://answersincreation.org/desertproblem.htm Neyman - [re: Snelling & Austin - at left] http://answersincreation.org/coconino.htm Neyman - [re: Froede- at left] http://answersincreation.org/rebuttal/magazines/TJ/v18/TJ18_navajo_sandstone.htm
igneous & metamorphic becoming sedimentary	igneous & metamorphic becoming sedimentary Morton - [a process for pebbles] http://home.entouch.net/dmd/pebbles.htm Morton - The Fish is Served With a Delicate Creamy Mercury Sauce http://home.entouch.net/dmd/mercury.htm [ed: would YECs agree with GM's claims that this is how it occurred? most YECs think God would not create fossil-containing strata in Creation Week because this would give an appearance of "death before sin" but they might say that any types of non-fossil strata are OK; but they must explain any strata above where they "draw a line" between geology that is pre-Flood and during-Flood] TO (Moore) - [volcanic ash into shale?] http://talkorigins.org/faqs/ashfall.html EH - Weathering Mantles http://www.geocities.com/earthhistory/sap.htm
clastic (sedimentary) dikes Roth, Clastic Dikes * http://grisda.org/origins/04053.htm Roth, Clastic Pipes & Dikes in Kodachrome Basin * http://grisda.org/origins/19044.htm Walker - Fluidisation Pipes * http://answersingenesis.org/tj/v14/i3/pipes.asp J.Morris - [clastic pipes] AIG-YE-claim http://icr.org/article/2823/10/ sedimentary phenomena (YE claims) [editor's confession: These are here because I'm not sure how to categorize them; are they sort of analogous to asking "can you explain this" in Morton's challenges? Chadwick, [megabreccias due to catastrophism] * http://grisda.org/origins/05039.htm Snelling - [sandstone, conglomerate-sed,...] http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v20/i2/uluru.asp Lalomov - [Crimean Peninsula, Tavrick Formation: sandstone, shale,...] http://creationresearch.org/crsq/articles/38/38_3/Crimean.htm Oard & Klevberg - [rounded coarse "rim gravel" in Arizona] http://creationresearch.org/crsq/articles/42/42_1/deposits_arizona.htm	clastic (sedimentary) dikes Morton - Why Clastic Dykes... http://home.entouch.net/dmd/clasdyke.htm
stratigraphy with layers of DETAILS Hoesch - [reply, re: drought/mudcracks] http://icr.org/article/3111/109/ Pitman [section about burrows] - http://naturalselection.0catch.com/Files/geologiccolumn.html#Shale%20Beds Woody - [paleokarsts; details of carbonates] * http://answersingenesis.org/home/area/magazines/tj/docs/v15n3_paleokarst.asp There isn't much on this side of the table, since I haven't found many YE attempts to explain how these "layers with details" could occur if the layers were laid down during a global flood.	stratigraphy with layers of DETAILS Morton (GM) - [bio-varnish] http://home.entouch.net/dmd/varnish.htm [turtle] Poop http://home.entouch.net/dmd/poop.htm many geo-details http://home.entouch.net/dmd/NorthSeaTime.htm [carbonate with burrows] http://home.entouch.net/dmd/hardgrounds.htm GM - sideways burrows http://home.entouch.net/dmd/burrows.htm sideways burrows http://home.entouch.net/dmd/orkney.htm sand/shale burrows http://home.entouch.net/dmd/haymond.htm buried channels http://home.entouch.net/dmd/rivchan.htm buried canyons http://home.entouch.net/dmd/canyons.htm termites & dinos http://home.entouch.net/dmd/termites.htm tracks & raindrops http://home.entouch.net/dmd/Tracks.htm fossilized dung http://home.entouch.net/dmd/bathroom.htm insects in amber http://home.entouch.net/dmd/amber.htm multi-droughts http://home.entouch.net/dmd/droughts.htm thick + details http://home.entouch.net/dmd/difunta.htm geological details http://home.entouch.net/dmd/monument.htm salt deposits http://home.entouch.net/dmd/saltandmeteors.htm flood lithification http://home.entouch.net/dmd/oilwellcores.htm similar facts are described in an "EarthHistory" (EH) website: Dino Eggs [details] http://www.geocities.com/earthhistory/eggs.htm
paleosols in layers (more details) Walker, Paleosols: digging deeper 'buries' challenge to Flood geology * http://answersingenesis.org/tj/v17/i3/paleosols.asp [this is about Meert, but is there a YE response to Clarke?]	paleosols in layers (more details) Clarke - Paleosoils and their Implications to the Flood http://home.entouch.net/dmd/paleosol.htm Meert [3 strikes] [ed: maybe I'll "snip the middle" (including most of the "attitude") and post part of it, re: geo-column & paleosols, on the left side paired with Walker] http://gondwanaresearch.com/hp/paleosol.htm EH - [examples of fossil soils in the geologic record: a bibliography] [ed: we'll have to check to see how many of these are available on the web; and it would also be more user-friendly if they were arranged according to suggestions for "what to read first,..." instead of alphabetically; but the sheer number of citations should indicate the magnitude of the problem for YE theories] http://www.geocities.com/earthhistory/pweathering.htm Average soil depth is consistent with a young earth http://answersincreation.org/argument/G72_creation_science.htm Average soil depth is consistent with a young earth. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CD/CD620.html
evaporites (salt deposits in geology) J.Morris - Does Salt [in geology formations] Come from Evaporated Sea Water? AIG-YE-claim http://icr.org/article/532/62/	evaporites (salt deposits in geology) Evaporites could form without evaporation http://answersincreation.org/argument/G41_creation_science.htm Evaporites could form without evaporation. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CD/CD301.html Evaporites are too thick http://answersincreation.org/argument/G42_creation_science.htm Evaporites are too thick. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CD/CD302.html Evaporites contain no organic matter http://answersincreation.org/argument/G43_creation_science.htm Evaporites contain no organic matter. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CD/CD303.html
sedimentation experiments (to explain varves,...) Berthault, Experiments in Stratification * http://icr.org/article/473/ Berthault - Experiments on Lamination of Sediments http://answersingenesis.org/tj/v3/i1/lamination.asp Snelling [re: Berthault expmts] * http://answersingenesis.org/tj/v11/i2/nature.asp Walker - [artificial chemical fast formation of sed-rock] http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v24/i2/rapid_rock.asp	sedimentation experiments (to explain varves,...) Experiments show that strata can violate principles of superposition. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CD/CD240.html
varves — laminations Garner, Green River Blues * http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v19/i3/greenriver.asp J.Morris - [Green River supports YE] http://icr.org/article/530/10/ AIG - [counter-response to letter by John Clavis (is he a worthy representative for OE? why choose this letter?) about Garner] * http://answersingenesis.org/home/area/feedback/negative2feb2001.asp Batten - [ways to get sand-layers] * AIG-YE-claim http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v19/i1/sandy.asp Howard - Varves: Problems for Standard Geochronology * [the website-homepage just says "coming soon" - ??] http://creationinthecrossfire.com/documents/Varves/VarvesProblems.htm Whitmore - Exploding Fish, Evidence for Rapid Burial http://answersingenesis.org/articles/am/v1/n2/exploding-fish Woolley - [fish preservation & coprolites, re: Morton-3 at right] http://answersingenesis.org/tj/v15/i1/greenriver.asp	varves Lindsay - Counting Rock Layers http://don-lindsay-archive.org/creation/varves.html Phillips - Varves: Layered Sediments as Evidence for an Old Earth http://ibri.org/DVD-1/Tracts/varvetct.htm Varves can form in less than a year http://answersincreation.org/argument/G3621_creation_science.htm Varves can form in less than a year. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CD/CD241.html Morton-1 [uniform varves] http://home.entouch.net/dmd/castile.htm Morton-2 [a "mixed" page with three sections (#2, 3, 4) about Varves, Pollen in the Varves, Carbon-14 and Varves] http://home.entouch.net/dmd/age.htm Neyman - The Truth about Varves http://answersincreation.org/varves.htm Neyman - Green River Formation and the Flood http://answersincreation.org/rebuttal/magazines/TJ/v20/TJ20_green_river.htm Morton-3 Creationist Misuse of Green River Formation http://home.entouch.net/dmd/greenriver.htm Henke - varve fossil beds - http://answersincreation.org/clarkia.htm
Grand Canyon JMorris - GC isn't evidence for OE http://icr.org/article/1129/ AIG - [GC as Monument to Flood] http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v18/i2/grand_canyon.asp Hoesch - [re: lower GC] http://icr.org/article/3342/ - 3 k Vail - What is the message? http://answersingenesis.org/docs2005/1222gc.asp Parker - http://answersingenesis.org/home/area/cfol/ch3-grand-canyon.asp many articles (both YE and OE) about Grand Canyon are in other sections, where specific aspects are examined, but we should find a GC-series like those on the right side	Grand Canyon Neyman - review of Grand Canyon: Monument to Catastrophe http://answersincreation.org/bookreview/monument/gcbr.htm Ch 3 - Interpreting Strata http://answersincreation.org/bookreview/monument/c3.htm Ch 4 - Interpreting Strata http://answersincreation.org/bookreview/monument/c4.htm Ch 7 - Fossils in GC http://answersincreation.org/bookreview/monument/c7.htm Neyman - Stratigraphy... [Parts 1-3 are about GC] [this is also listed in "overviews"] http://answersincreation.org/stratigraphy.htm Woolf - introduction http://www.jwoolfden.com/gc_intro.html forming the plateau http://www.jwoolfden.com/gc_rocks.html cutting the canyon http://www.jwoolfden.com/gc_canyon.html conclusion http://www.jwoolfden.com/gc_summary.html Earth-History (EH) - Grand Canyon Strata: Precambrian http://www.geocities.com/earthhistory/grand.htm Paleozoic http://www.geocities.com/earthhistory/grandb.htm Triassic http://www.geocities.com/earthhistory/grand2.htm Jurassic-Cenozoic http://www.geocities.com/earthhistory/grand2b.htm Evaluating Flood Geology http://www.geocities.com/earthhistory/grand3.htm GC Explorer - what GC is http://www.bobspixels.com/kaibab.org/geology/gc_layer.htm and how it formed http://www.bobspixels.com/kaibab.org/geology/gc_geol.htm
erosion to form Grand Canyon	erosion to form Grand Canyon The Grand Canyon was carved by retreating Flood waters. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CH/CH581.html Neyman - review of Grand Canyon Ch 5 – How was the GC eroded? http://answersincreation.org/bookreview/monument/c5.htm Neyman - Missing Rivers? [in GC] http://answersincreation.org/rebuttal/other/sdc/missingrivers.htm The mouth of the Colorado River does not have enough sediment for the Grand Canyon http://answersincreation.org/argument/G331_creation_science.htm The mouth of the Colorado River does not have enough sediment for the Grand Canyon. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CD/CD210.html Morton - Colorado River Argument [of Steve Austin] http://home.entouch.net/dmd/grandcanyon.htm
fast canyon formation — Grand Canyon analogies J.Morris - [fast-forming Burlingame Canyon] http://icr.org/article/566/12/ and with slightly different text, and pictures added, in AIG - http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v24/i4/canyon.asp Silvestru - [Kettle River Gorge] http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/4837/ Gibson - [fast canyon in Georgia] http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v22/i4/canyon.asp White & Taylor - [flood splits Britain from Europe] http://answersingenesis.org/docs2006/0929flood.asp	fast canyon formation — Grand Canyon analogies Neyman - [Burlingame] Canyon Deception http://answersincreation.org/rebuttal/icr/drjohn/drjohn_156.htm Neyman - Kettle River Gorge [not a major claim?] http://answersincreation.org/rebuttal/cmi/article/2007/20070116_cmi_kettle_river_gorge.htm
Mt Saint Helens (as example of catastrophism) GRI - summary: "Rapid Erosion..." http://grisda.org/origins/11063.htm Austin - [overview-summary] * AIG-linked http://icr.org/article/261/ Austin [more about rapid erosion] * http://grisda.org/origins/11090.htm Ham - I got excited at Mount St. Helens! http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v15/i3/mtsthelens.asp Swenson - [huge boulder moved by Mt St H] http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v17/i2/boulder.asp Swenson & Catchpoole - After devastation… the recovery http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v22/i2/recovery.asp	Mt St Helens (as example of catastrophism) Rapid erosion on Mount St. Helens shows Grand Canyon could form suddenly. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CH/CH581_1.html A Visit To Mt. St. Helens [link from godandscience.org] -- http://www.doesgodexist.org/MarApr01/AVisitToMtStHelens.html Neyman - #1 http://answersincreation.org/mountsainthelens.htm #2 http://answersincreation.org/rebuttal/other/sdc/sdc_mount_saint_helens.htm #3 http://answersincreation.org/rebuttal/cse/cse_saint_helens.htm [ed: these three can be used both here and in "uniformitarianism & catastrophism" section; maybe #1 in "unif & cat" and #2 (yes) and #3 (maybe) here?]
rapid formation-and-aging of volcanic islands Andrews - The Lesson of Surtsey AIG-YE-claim http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v5/i2/surtsey.asp Wieland - Surtsey, the young island that looks old! http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v17/i2/surtsey.asp AIG - ...lessons about things that "look old." [Tuluman Island] http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v21/i2/tuluman.asp	rapid formation-and-aging of volcanic islands Neyman - [YE attitudes & tactics] http://answersincreation.org/island.htm
volcanoes Austin - [super-volcanoes during flood] * http://icr.org/article/431/ Austin & Hoesch - [super volcanoes] http://icr.org/article/2830/106/ Snelling & Woodmorappe [cooling of plutons] * http://icr.org/research/index/researchp_as_igneousbodies/ Snelling - Australian Burning Mountain [see response by Neyman] http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v15/i2/mountain.asp	volcanoes Volcanic material would have filled the earth if the earth were old http://answersincreation.org/argument/G62_creation_science.htm Volcanic mountains are built too fast for an old earth. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CD/CD502.html Neyman - Australian Burning Mountain http://answersincreation.org/mountain.htm
geology of basalts Sousa - [basaltic geology] * http://origins.swau.edu/papers/geologic/lava/default.html J.Morris - [Columbia River Basalts] AIG-linked http://icr.org/article/510/12/ Woodmorappe & Oard, Field Studies in Columbia River Basalt * http://answersingenesis.org/Home/Area/Magazines/tj/docs/v16n1_columbia.asp	geology of basalts
volcanic dikes Rugg & Austin - [rapid lava dams in GC] * http://icr.org/research/index/researchp_sa_r02/ J.Morris - [Devil's Tower - basalt columns] AIG-linked -- http://icr.org/article/518/10/ Walker - [Devil's Tower - basalt columns] http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v24/i3/devils_tower.asp Walker - Giant’s Causeway [basalt pipes] http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v27/i2/cause.asp Froede - Stone Mountain [granitic pluton] http://creationresearch.org/crsq/articles/31/31_4b.html	volcanic dikes Morton - dikes in Britain http://home.entouch.net/dmd/britig.htm Morton - batholith cooling http://home.entouch.net/dmd/greatstonedome.htm Neyman - Giant's Causeway [mainly re: radiometric dating] http://answersincreation.org/rebuttal/magazines/Creation/2005/article_v27_i2_giant_causeway.htm
granite formation Snelling & Woodmorappe - [rapid granite] * AIG-YE-claim http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v21/i1/rocks.asp * Snelling, Rapid Granite Formation? * AIG-YE-claim http://answersingenesis.org/tj/v10/i2/granite.asp Woodmorappe - [viscosity of granitic magma] * http://answersingenesis.org/tj/v15/i2/rocks.asp Walker - [granite texture & cooling rate] * http://answersingenesis.org/tj/v17/i2/plutons.asp Bultsma (OE) and Walker (YE response) http://answersingenesis.org/home/area/feedback/negative_05august2002.asp	granite formation
minerals — opals diamonds metals Snelling - Creating Opals http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v17/i1/opals.asp Snelling - diamonds http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v16/i1/diamonds.asp Snelling, microscopic diamonds * AIG-YE-claim http://answersingenesis.org/tj/v10/i1/diamonds.asp Snelling - Mt Isa Metal Deposits http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v6/i3/noah.asp	minerals – opals metals diamonds Henke - fast opal synthesis - http://answersincreation.org/opals.htm
coal formation J.Morris - [coal from peat swamps?] http://icr.org/article/521/10/ Snelling - [coal beds] * http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v8/i3/noah.asp Schonknecht & Scherer, Too Much Coal for a Young Earth? * http://answersingenesis.org/tj/v11/i3/coal.asp Walker - http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v23/i2/coal.asp Wieland - [floating forests] http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v18/i1/forests.asp Wieland - [worms in coal] http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v13/i2/worms.asp Snelling - [polystrate coal] http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v16/i3/swamp.asp Snelling & Mackay - [volcanos & coal] http://answersingenesis.org/tj/v1/i1/noah.asp	coal formation Coal and oil can form quickly. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CC/CC361_1.html Morton - floating forest http://home.entouch.net/dmd/veggiematic.htm Neyman - [floating forest & flood currents] http://answersincreation.org/floating.htm EH - [variety of coal-related] http://www.geocities.com/earthhistory/aigcoal.htm TO (Littleton) - [coal & St.Helens] http://talkorigins.org/faqs/mtsthelens.html Neyman - Joggins Fossil Cliffs [fossil trees] http://answersincreation.org/rebuttal/icr/impact/joggins.htm
oil & gas in geology [do any prominent YECs currently claim these? check the references: pathlights.com (what is this?), Hovind (not considered reliable, even by YECs), H.Morris (in 1982)] oil formation McQueen - Oil Chemistry and Flood Geology AIG-linked http://icr.org/index.php?module=articles&action=view&ID=259	oil & gas in geology Natural gas escapes too fast to allow for long ages http://answersincreation.org/argument/G341_creation_science.htm Natural gas escapes too fast to allow for long ages. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CD/CD230.html High pressures in oil fields would have bled off if earth were old http://answersincreation.org/argument/G342_creation_science.htm High pressures in oil fields would have bled off if earth were old. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CD/CD231.html Oil seepage would have drained offshore reservoirs in 20,000 years http://answersincreation.org/argument/G343_creation_science.htm Oil seepage would have drained offshore reservoirs in 20,000 years. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CD/CD232.html oil formation [why is there so much about coal formation, on both sides, but not oil?]
Niagara Falls Pierce, Niagara Falls and the Bible [re: 1841?] * http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v22/i4/niagara_falls.asp J.Morris - Dating Niagara Falls http://icr.org/article/123/10/ [ed: don't they realize this is a "so what" argument? see right side]	Niagara Falls Niagara Falls erosion rate indicates a young earth http://answersincreation.org/argument/G71_creation_science.htm The erosion rate of Niagara Falls' rim indicates a young earth. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CD/CD610.html TO-faq http://talkorigins.org/faqs/hovind/howgood-yea2.html#proof17
erosion rates Walker - Eroding Ages AIG-YE-claim http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v22/i2/ages.asp Oard, Antiquity of landforms: objective evidence that dating methods are wrong * http://answersingenesis.org/home/area/magazines/tj/docs/tj14n1_landforms.asp	erosion rates After millions of years of erosion, we would have no mountains http://answersincreation.org/argument/G61_creation_science.htm On an old earth, mountains would have eroded by now. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CD/CD501.html Neyman - Eroding Continents http://answersincreation.org/rebuttal/magazines/Creation/2000/erode_cont.htm GM Illogical Young-earth Erosion [Rate] Argument http://home.entouch.net/dmd/erosion.htm
ocean sediments [currently, both left & right sides are defensive, with no initial claims or critiques, as if only #2 is there in a 1-2-3 exchange] [if the amount of sediment is too much for thousands of years but not enough for millions, YEs must explain why there is as much as there is, and OEs must explain why there isn't more] Roth - [shell-sediments in deep ocean] * in short version [at bottom of page] http://grisda.org/origins/12003.htm#Roth and long version http://grisda.org/origins/12048.htm Oard - [review of Vardiman’s book on seafloor sediments] * AIG-YE-claim http://answersingenesis.org/tj/v10/i3/sea_floor.asp Vardiman - A Biblical Model of Deep Sea Floor Sedimentation * http://icr.org/research/index/researchp_lv_r01/ Roth, Turbidites [underwater mud flows] * http://grisda.org/origins/02106.htm	ocean sediment There is not enough sediment in the ocean for an old earth http://answersincreation.org/argument/G333_creation_science.htm There is not enough sediment in the ocean for an old earth. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CD/CD220.html Much more sediment is deposited than removed by subduction http://answersincreation.org/argument/G334_creation_science.htm Much more sediment is deposited than removed by subduction. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CD/CD220_1.html Mississippi delta indicates a young earth http://answersincreation.org/argument/G332_creation_science.htm Mississippi delta could have formed in 5,000 years. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CD/CD211.html Juvenile water is added to oceans too fast for an old earth http://answersincreation.org/argument/G361_creation_science.htm Juvenile water is added to oceans too fast for an old earth. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CD/CD222.html
ocean salt (in & out) Sarfati - Salty seas (popular-level article based on A-and-H paper below) AIG-YE-claim http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v21/i1/seas.asp Austin & Humphreys, The Sea’s Missing Salt * AIG-YE-claim http://tccsa.tc/articles/ocean_sodium.html Wieland - Sea salt loses its savour for evolutionists AIG-YE-claim http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v14/i1/seasalt.asp Williams - [salt in lake] http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v17/i2/salt_lake.asp	ocean salt (in & out) Oceans do not have enough dissolved minerals for an old earth http://answersincreation.org/argument/G335_creation_science.htm Oceans do not have enough dissolved minerals for an old earth. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CD/CD221.html Sodium accumulates in oceans too fast for an old earth http://answersincreation.org/argument/G336_creation_science.htm Sodium accumulates in oceans too fast for an old earth. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CD/CD221_1.html [ed: the pages below have a lot about letters and "who said what, when" but I would prefer just reading what each side says about the science] Morton - Salt in the Sea... http://home.entouch.net/dmd/salt.htm Neyman - [re: more letters and some science] http://answersincreation.org/rebuttal/aig/daily/2006/20060331_feedback.htm
helium in atmosphere (in & out) Sarfati - [He in air (and rocks)] * AIG-YE-claim http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v20/i3/old_earth.asp Vardiman, The Helium Escape Problem * http://icr.org/article/247/ Malcolm, Helium in Earth’s Atmosphere * AIG-YE-claim http://answersingenesis.org/tj/v8/i2/helium.asp Brown - [He-isotopes, etc] * http://grisda.org/origins/25055.htm	helium in atmosphere (in & out) [this logic is similar to "ocean salt" but in a different context] There is not enough helium in the atmosphere for an old earth. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CE/CE001.html and more - http://talkorigins.org/faqs/hovind/howgood-yea.html#proof14
MORE about Noah and the flood — was it local or global (considering Genesis and/or science) plus questions about the ark & animals, and more — is in the temporary links-page for Noah's Flood.
flood — water amount & source (and behavior) AIG-ABook (Ch 12) - What about all that water? * http://answersingenesis.org/Home/Area/AnswersBook/flood12.asp Williams - Drowned from below http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v22/i3/drowned.asp Baumgardner & Barnette - Patterns of Ocean Circulation During Noah’s Flood [this can help explain "super erosion" but causes other problems for YE theories, as Neyman points out in several topic-categories] * http://icr.org/research/index/researchp_jb_patternsofcirculation/ Woodmorappe, Hypercanes: Rainfall Generators [to get 40 days of rain] During the Flood? * http://answersingenesis.org/Home/area/magazines/TJ/TJv14n2_Hypercanes.pdf Vardiman - Hypercanes Following the Flood * http://icr.org/pdf/research/HYPERCANES.pdf Walker - Where did all the water go? http://biblicalgeology.net/content/view/50/ AIG-ABook - Where Did the Flood Waters Go? * http://christiananswers.net/q-aig/aig-floodwater.html Sherwin - Origin of the Oceans http://icr.org/article/99/14/	flood - water amount & source Neyman - [review of ABook (Ch 12) at left] http://answersincreation.org/bookreview/answersbook/abc12.htm A comet supplied some of the flood waters http://answersincreation.org/argument/N12_creation_science.htm Flood from comet. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CH/CH410.html Patterns of Circulation Study [by Baumgardner & Barnette, at left] indicates that Noah's Flood could provide the erosional forces to deposit the world's sedimentary layers http://answersincreation.org/argument/G73_creation_science.htm Hydroplate theory http://answersincreation.org/argument/N13_creation_science.htm Hydroplate theory. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CH/CH420.html Morton [re: hydroplate theory] http://home.entouch.net/dmd/hydroplate.htm Couchman [re: hydroplate theory] http://lordibelieve.org/wbrown.doc
vapor canopy AIG - says this argument [re: existence & function of vapor canopy] is "doubtful, hence, inadvisable to use." http://answersingenesis.org/home/area/faq/dont_use.asp#canopy	vapor canopy The Vapor Canopy Theory http://answersincreation.org/argument/N11_creation_science.htm Flood from vapor canopy. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CH/CH401.html The pre-Flood vapor canopy would have made the world Edenic. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CH/CH310.html The pre-Flood vapor canopy would have extended human lifetimes. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CH/CH311.html TO - Vapor Canopy Holds No Water - http://talkorigins.org/faqs/canopy.html Ross - Raining on a Misconception http://www.reasons.org/resources/faf/1991_v5n2_q2/index.shtml#let_us_reason Morton - Demise & Fall of Water Vapor Canopy http://home.entouch.net/dmd/canopy.htm
plate tectonics (during flood) J.Morris - Did Noah's Flood Cover the Himalayan Mountains? http://icr.org/article/520/10/ Batten - [did Noah need oxygen tank?] http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v18/i3/oxygen.asp J.Morris - [when did mountains rise?] http://icr.org/article/103/14/ Baumgardner - [recent uplift of mountains] * AIG-linked http://icr.org/article/98/10/ AIG - says this argument — that "plate tectonics is fallacious" — is "doubtful, hence, inadvisable to use." http://answersingenesis.org/home/area/faq/dont_use.asp#tectonics AIG-ABook (Ch 11) - What about continental drift? http://answersingenesis.org/Home/Area/AnswersBook/continental11.asp and [with extra pics] in http://christiananswers.net/q-aig/aig-c001.html McIntosh,... - [integrated approach for flood models: ... , Hydroplates, Plate Tectonics, ...] [this page is also in YE models & debates] http://answersingenesis.org/home/area/magazines/tj/docs/14n1flood_models.asp Covey, Catastrophic Plate Tectonics * [in 4 pages: follow links for Parts 2-4] http://creationinthecrossfire.org/Articles/CatastrophicPlates1.htm six major YE authors (1994) - Catastrophic Plate Tectonics: Global Flood Model of Earth History * http://www.icr.org/research/index/researchp_as_platetectonicsl/ Baumgardner (1994) - Runaway Subduction as the Driving Mechanism for the Genesis Flood * AIG-linked http://www.icr.org/research/index/researchp_jb_runawaysubduction/ Baumgardner (1994) - Catstrophic Plate Tectonics: The Physics Behind the Genesis Flood * http://globalflood.org/papers/2003ICCcpt.html Baumgardner (1994) - Computer Modeling of the Large-Scale Tectonics * AIG-linked http://www.icr.org/research/index/researchp_jb_largescaletectonics/ Oard + Baumgardner - Forum on Catastrophic Plate Tectonics – 6 papers by YECs (3 pro by John R. Baumgardner & 3 con by Michael Oard) -- http://answersingenesis.org/tj/v16/i1/plate.asp Baumgardner’s website -- http://globalflood.org/ Baumgardner, interview [in 1997 by Wieland & Batten] * http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v19/i3/places.asp Hoesch - [super-size tsunamis] [but is not applied to flood] http://icr.org/article/901/104/ AIG - says this argument — that "Earth’s division in the days of Peleg (Gen. 10:25) refers to catastrophic splitting of the continents" — "definitely should not be used." http://answersingenesis.org/home/area/faq/dont_use.asp#peleg	plate tectonics (during flood) USGS (Kious & Tilling) - Story of Plate Tectonics (8-page teaching series) http://pubs.usgs.gov/gip/dynamic/dynamic.html The theory of plate tectonics is wrong. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CD/CD740.html Plate tectonics occurred catastrophically and has since slowed http://answersincreation.org/argument/G823_creation_science.htm Plate tectonics occurred catastrophically and has since slowed. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CD/CD750.html Runaway subduction http://answersincreation.org/argument/N14_creation_science.htm Runaway subduction. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CH/CH430.html High mountains were raised during the Flood http://answersincreation.org/argument/N434_creation_science.htm High mountains were raised during the Flood. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CH/CH570.html Neyman - [review of ABook (Ch 11) at left, re: Continental Drift] http://answersincreation.org/bookreview/answersbook/abc11.htm GM - Runaway Subduction is a Sham – http://home.entouch.net/dmd/subduction.htm Siemens - More Problems With Flood Geology [plate tectonics & water] http://asa3.org/ASA/PSCF/1992/PSCF12-92Siemens.html Rust [letter response] http://asa3.org/ASA/PSCF/1993/PSCF3-93Rust.html Siemens [response to Rust] http://asa3.org/ASA/PSCF/1993/PSCF9-93Siemens.html Roberts - conventional plate tectonics http://lordibelieve.org/time/age5.PDF -- http://lordibelieve.org/time/age6.PDF Roberts - problems with YE tectonics http://lordibelieve.org/RunawaySubduction.doc Roberts - notes from "plate tectonics" lecture by Baumgardner http://lordibelieve.org/Baumgardner_Lecture.doc and notes with rebuttal-comments, Part 1 http://lordibelieve.org/JB_Rebuttal_1.doc & Part 2 http://lordibelieve.org/JB_Rebuttal_2.doc EH (written by John Stear?) for Evolution Education Site Ring: History of Plate Tectonics http://www.geocities.com/earthhistory/plate.htm Rates of Plate Tectonics http://www.geocities.com/earthhistory/plate2.htm Evolution of Continents http://www.geocities.com/earthhistory/plate3.htm Laws of Physics http://www.geocities.com/earthhistory/plate4.htm References http://www.geocities.com/earthhistory/plate5.htm USGS - tectonics results (volcanos...) http://vulcan.wr.usgs.gov/Glossary/PlateTectonics/description_plate_tectonics.html EH (Stear) - Sea-floor Spreading & Age http://www.geocities.com/earthhistory/CT.htm USGS Magnetic Stripes & Isotopic Clocks by USGS http://pubs.usgs.gov/gip/dynamic/stripes.html
flood-volcanoes would kill fish & people	flood-volcanoes would kill fish & people Morton - Acidic Water of Global Flood Would Kill Noah and the Fish in the Sea http://home.entouch.net/dmd/acid.htm Morton - Carbon Dioxide & Global Flood: Everybody Dies http://home.entouch.net/dmd/co2.htm Morton - ["volcano pollution" paper rejected by YE journal, CRSQ, and GM's response letter] http://home.entouch.net/dmd/letter.htm
many meteors (during flood)	many meteors (during flood) Morton - http://home.entouch.net/dmd/meteors.htm
flood – survival (fish & plants) J. Morris,How Could Fish Survive the Flood? * http://icr.org/article/1085/ Cumming - [fish survival] * AIG-linked http://icr.org/article/351/ Batten & Sarfati - [fish & plants] * http://answersingenesis.org/Docs/444.asp AIG-ABook (Ch 14) - [fish] * http://answersingenesis.org/Home/Area/AnswersBook/fish14.asp J.Morris - ... land plants during the Flood AIG-linked http://icr.org/article/1205 Ashcraft - [plant survival] * http://nwcreation.net/plantsurvival.html	flood — survival of fish & plants Insects survived on floating vegetation mats http://answersincreation.org/argument/N31_creation_science.htm Insects survived on floating vegetation mats. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CH/CH511.html Aquatic organisms could have survived the Flood http://answersincreation.org/argument/N411_creation_science.htm Aquatic organisms could have survived the Flood. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CH/CH541.html Plants could have survived the Flood http://answersincreation.org/argument/N421_creation_science.htm Plants could have survived the Flood. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CH/CH542.html Neyman - [review of ABook (Ch 14) at left, re: ocean currents & plant survival] http://answersincreation.org/bookreview/answersbook/abc14.htm Neyman - [bits & pieces] http://answersincreation.org/rebuttal/icr/drjohn/drjohn_19.htm
ice age (after flood) J.Morris-1 - How soon after flood did earth return to equilibrium? http://icr.org/article/505/12/ J.Morris-2 - Was there an ice age? http://www.icr.org/article/1121 AIG-ABook (Ch 16) - What about the Ice Age? * http://answersingenesis.org/Home/Area/AnswersBook/iceage16.asp AIG - [hot earth caused ice age] http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v16/i3/iceage.asp Hoesch - Arctic Heat Wave AIG-linked http://icr.org/article/2836/63/ Oard, The Ice Age and the Genesis Flood * AIG-linked http://icr.org/article/272 Wieland - [re: Oard & his ideas] http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v19/i1/freeze.asp Oard, A Post-Flood Ice Age Model http://grisda.org/origins/17008.htm Vardiman, Cooling of the Ocean After the Flood * http://www.icr.org/article/406/ Vardiman, Numerical Simulation of Precipitation Induced by Hot Mid-Ocean Ridges * http://www.icr.org/research/index/researchp_lv_r04/ Hoesch - The Big Thaw [results] http://icr.org/article/3126/102/ Oard-1997, Classic Tillite Reclassified as Submarine Debris Flow * [were tillites (supposedly glacial debris) formed during flood?] http://www.answersingenesis.org/tj/v11/i1/tillite.asp Oard-2004 - Long-age puzzle of thin ice at the edge of the Laurentide Ice Sheet http://answersingenesis.org/tj/v18/i2/icesheet.asp Lietha - movie review [re: OE teachings] of Ice Age http://answersingenesis.org/docs2002/0319iceage.asp [ed: as you can see in the title below, Oard claims a connection between the Ice Age and Woolly Mammoths] Oard - Frozen in Time: The Woolly Mammoth, the Ice Age, and the Bible http://answersingenesis.org/home/area/FIT/index.asp The chapters below are scattered (in order shown) throughout AIG’s topics-page about The Ice Age: 10. Catastrophic melting http://answersingenesis.org/home/area/fit/chapter10.asp 7. The Genesis flood caused the Ice Age http://answersingenesis.org/home/area/fit/chapter7.asp 6. The multiplication of ice age theories http://answersingenesis.org/home/area/fit/chapter6.asp 3. The mystery of the Ice Age http://answersingenesis.org/home/area/fit/chapter3.asp 11. Only one Ice Age http://answersingenesis.org/home/area/fit/chapter11.asp 9. The peak of the Ice Age http://answersingenesis.org/home/area/fit/chapter9.asp 8. The snowblitz http://answersingenesis.org/home/area/fit/chapter8.asp 12. Do ice cores show many tens of thousands of years? http://answersingenesis.org/home/area/fit/chapter12.asp 13. Where was man during the Ice Age? http://answersingenesis.org/home/area/fit/chapter13.asp Vardiman, Global Warming [politics] and the Flood * http://www.icr.org/article/423/ Vardiman, A Faulty Climate Trigger * http://www.icr.org/article/390/	ice age (after flood) The Flood caused an ice age http://answersincreation.org/argument/N44_creation_science.htm The Flood caused an ice age. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CH/CH590.html Henke - Ancient Ice Ages AND Submarine Landslides, but NOT Noah's Flood [link from Neyman] http://home.austarnet.com.au/stear/henke_oard1.htm Neyman - [re: J.Morris-2 at left, which ignores warming due to increased carbon dioxide] http://answersincreation.org/rebuttal/icr/drjohn/drjohn_56.htm Neyman - [re: many ice ages] http://answersincreation.org/iceage.htm & with extra intro-paragraph added [in review of ABook (Ch 16) at left] http://answersincreation.org/bookreview/answersbook/abc16.htm Neyman - [re: Oard-2004, about Laurentide Ice Sheet] http://answersincreation.org/rebuttal/magazines/TJ/v18/TJ18_laurentide.htm Neyman - review of GrandCanyon..., Ch 9 - The Ice Age (plus other topics) http://answersincreation.org/bookreview/monument/c9.htm Neyman - review of Frozen In Time: The Woolly Mammoth, The Ice Age, and the Bible, by Michael Oard (2004) intro for review http://answersincreation.org/bookreview/frozen/frozen_in_time.htm 3. mystery of Ice Age - http://answersincreation.org/bookreview/frozen/frozen_in_time_3.htm 6. old-age theories about IA - http://answersincreation.org/bookreview/frozen/frozen_in_time_6.htm 7. IA caused by global flood - http://answersincreation.org/bookreview/frozen/frozen_in_time_7.htm 8. beginning of IA - http://answersincreation.org/bookreview/frozen/frozen_in_time_8.htm 9. peak of IA - http://answersincreation.org/bookreview/frozen/frozen_in_time_9.htm 10. floods at end of IA - http://answersincreation.org/bookreview/frozen/frozen_in_time_10.htm 11. one IA or many? - http://answersincreation.org/bookreview/frozen/frozen_in_time_11.htm 12. ice cores dating - http://answersincreation.org/bookreview/frozen/frozen_in_time_12.htm
ice cores Oard - Are Polar Ice Sheets Only 4500 Years Old? http://icr.org/article/120/63/ Oard - Do ice cores show many tens of thousands of years? [Ch 12 of Frozen in Time] http://answersingenesis.org/home/area/fit/chapter12.asp Oard, Ice cores vs. the Flood [re: Seely's paper at right] * http://answersingenesis.org/tj/v18/i2/icecore.asp Oard, Do Greenland Ice Cores Show Over 100,000 Years of Annual Layers? * http://answersingenesis.org/tj/v15/i3/greenland.asp Oard, Vardiman, and Wieland, Superficial Interpretation of Ice Core Data * http://creationresearch.org/creation_matters/pdf/2005/Oard%20preprint.PDF Pitman, Ancient Ice * http://naturalselection.0catch.com/Files/ancientice.html Vardiman, Ice Cores and the Age of the Earth * AIG-linked http://icr.org/article/355 Oard, Still trying to make ice cores old * http://answersingenesis.org/docs2006/1228ice-cores.asp Oard - Wild ice-core interpretations [of O-isotope ratios] by uniformitarian scientists http://answersingenesis.org/tj/v16/i1/ice_core.asp Vardiman, Out of Whose Womb Came the Ice? * AIG-linked http://www.icr.org/article/383/ Vardiman, Rapid Changes in Oxygen Isotope Content of Ice Cores * http://icr.org/research/index/researchp_lv_r02 & same paper is here, http://answersingenesis.org/tj/v11/i1/oxygen.asp Wieland - The Lost Squadron AIG-YE-claim http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v19/i3/squadron.asp Wieland - Ice-bound plane flies again! AIG-YE-claim http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v26/i1/plane.asp	ice cores Lindsay (intro & 4 sub-pages) http://don-lindsay-archive.org/creation/icecap.html Neyman - Ice Cores http://www.answersincreation.org/rebuttal/icr/impact/icecore.htm Neyman - Frozen in Time review, Ch 12 - Ice Cores http://answersincreation.org/bookreview/frozen/frozen_in_time_12.htm TO-faq - Dating with Icecores - http://talkorigins.org/faqs/icecores.html pscf - Seely - The GISP2 Ice Core: Ultimate Proof that Noah's Flood Was Not Global: http://asa3.org/ASA/PSCF/2003/PSCF12-03Seely.pdf and 3 letters:    Godfrey (YE) http://asa3.org/ASA/PSCF/2004/PSCF3-04Godfrey.pdf    Eshelbrenner (YE) http://asa3.org/ASA/PSCF/2004/PSCF6-04Eshelbrenner.pdf    Seely (OE) [cold facts] http://asa3.org/ASA/PSCF/2004/PSCF9-04Seely.pdf World War II airplanes are now beneath thousands of "annual" ice layers http://answersincreation.org/argument/G531_creation_science.htm World War II airplanes are now beneath thousands of "annual" ice layers. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CD/CD410.html Neyman - Greenland Aircraft http://answersincreation.org/greenlandair.htm news in Science Daily http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/06/040611080100.htm
tree rings Lorey, Tree Rings [old pines] and Biblical Chronology * http://icr.org/article/381 Bergman & Doolan - The Oldest Living Things: Trees AIG-YE-claim http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v10/i1/oldest.asp Bates - [why no super-old trees?] AIG-YE-claim http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v25/i1/patriarch.asp anonymous - [oldest trees] AIG-YE-claim http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v17/i3/living_tree.asp tree rings and C-14 Batten, Tree Ring Dating (dendrochronology) * AIG-YE-claim http://answersingenesis.org/home/area/faq/docs/tree_ring.asp Brown - Can Tree Rings Be Used to Calibrate Radiocarbon Dates? * http://grisda.org/origins/22047.htm Major - Dating in Archaeology: Radiocarbon & Tree-Ring Dating * http://www.apologeticspress.org/rr/rr1993/r&r9310a.htm Brantley - Dating in Archaeology: Challenges to Biblical Credibility * http://www.apologeticspress.org/defdocs/rr1993/r&r9311a.htm [ed: This section is also in the links-page for Radiometric Dating]	tree rings EH - [annual dating methods: tree rings & ice cores & varves] http://www.geocities.com/earthhistory/quat.htm Dendrochronology is suspect because two or more rings can grow per year. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CB/CB501.html dendro-principles - http://www.sonic.net/bristlecone/dendro.html reliable? http://www.biblicalchronologist.org/answers/c14_treerings.php The oldest living thing is younger than 4,900 years http://answersincreation.org/argument/N51_creation_science.htm The Oldest Living Tree is around the age for Noah's Flood [and 11,700 years old --> 7,500 years] http://answersincreation.org/argument/E611_creation_science.htm Neyman - [no super-old trees?] http://answersincreation.org/rebuttal/icr/impact/redwood.htm
magnetic field Snelling - [rapid reversals in fossil magnetism] [1991] AIG-YE-claim http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v13/i3/fossil.asp Snelling - Earth's magnetic field and age of the Earth [1991] AIG-YE-claim http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v13/i4/magnetic.asp Snelling- [rapid magnetic reversals] * http://answersingenesis.org/docs/3397.asp Sarfati - Earth’s Magnetic Field [1998, after proposal of Catastrophic Plate Tectonics] AIG-YE-claim http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v20/i2/magnetic.asp Humphreys, The Earth’s Magnetic Field is Young * http://icr.org/article/371 Humphreys, The Earth’s Magnetic Field is Still Losing Energy * http://creationresearch.org/crsq/articles/39/39_1/GeoMag.htm [the two papers below are also in the links-page for Astronomy] Humphreys - The Creation of Planetary Magnetic Fields http://creationresearch.org/crsq/articles/21/21_3/21_3.html Humphreys - Beyond Neptune: Voyager II Supports Creation [re: magnetic] http://icr.org/article/329	magnetic field The earth's magnetic field is decaying, indicating a young earth http://answersincreation.org/argument/G811_creation_science.htm The earth's magnetic field is decaying, indicating a young earth. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CD/CD701.html Cowling's theorem disproves dynamo theory of earth's magnetic field. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CD/CD701_1.html [the next 4 pages discuss reversals, but these are now accepted by YEs, as you can see in Snelling's pages, the question is whether reversals were rapid during/after the flood, or slow] Mid-ocean magnetic reversals do not show that the earth's magnetic field has changed polarization http://answersincreation.org/argument/G822_creation_science.htm Midocean magnetic anomalies are not reversals. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CD/CD741.html USGS - reversals during seafloor-spreading http://pubs.usgs.gov/gip/dynamic/stripes.html Meert - [magnetic reversals] - http://gondwanaresearch.com/hp/magfield.htm Thompson-TO(faq) - [detailed analysis] http://talkorigins.org/faqs/magfields.html Decay of the Earth's Magnetic Field Proves the Earth is Young - http://www.godandscience.org/youngearth/magnetic.php
DNA dating Wieland - A shrinking date for ‘Eve’ – AIG-YE-claim http://answersingenesis.org/tj/v12/i1/eve.asp Woodmorappe, Molecular Clocks Can Run Very Fast * http://www.rae.org/clocks.html Plaisted, Mitochondrial DNA Mutation Rates * http://www.cs.unc.edu/~plaisted/ce/mitochondria.html Brown, Mitochondrial Clock (abstracts of articles) * http://www.mhrc.net/mitochondria.htm Harrub & Thompson, The Demise of ‘Mitochondrial Eve’ * http://www.apologeticspress.org/articles/2095 Harrub & Thompson, How Many Times Does ‘Mitochondrial Eve’ Have to Die? * http://www.apologeticspress.org/articles/2332 Sarfati - Genesis correctly predicts Y-Chromosome pattern: Jews and Arabs shown to be descendants of one man! http://answersingenesis.org/docs2/4304news5-16-2000.asp	DNA dating Mitochondrial Eve lived only 6500 years ago. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CB/CB621_1.html
amino acid dating Wieland - Shaking hands on a recent creation [simplistic, makes strong YE claims] http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v15/i4/hands.asp Pitman, Amino Acid Racemization Dating [recognizes complexies, urges humility in defense against OE claims] * http://naturalselection.0catch.com/Files/aminoaciddating.html Brown, Amino Acid Dating [is very thorough in teaching chemistry concepts, so might be useful for chem-novices] * http://www.creation-science-prophecy.com/amino/	amino acid dating
human growth & history	human growth & history Human population growth indicates a young earth. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CB/CB620.html Written history is too short. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CG/CG040.html Agriculture is too recent. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CG/CG041.html Deem - The Human Population is Increasing Too Rapidly -- http://godandscience.org/youngearth/population.html Lindsay - population growth http://don-lindsay-archive.org/creation/population_growth.html GM Why Our Technological World Could Not Arise in a Mere 4000 Years -- http://home.entouch.net/dmd/technologyflood.htm
When you read this section, remember that WHEN and HOW are different questions about creation; evidence for fossil evolution (with changes in biological species over a long period of time) is not evidence for neo-Darwinian evolution, relative to old-earth progressive creation, because fossil evolution is compatible with a variety of theories (progressive creation, theistic evolution, atheistic evolution) as explained in Logical Evaluation of Evolutions where the table-row for "old earth with fossil evolution" is YES-YES-YES for three types of old-earth creation, with only young-earth creation saying NO. Therefore, if you see authors implying that fossil evidence supports (only) neo-Darwinian evolution, they are claiming too much, since what is most strongly supported is an old earth.
fossils overview (how formed,...) J.Morris - Are Fossils The Result of Noah's Flood? http://icr.org/article/504/9/ J.Morris - Where are Fossils Found? http://icr.org/article/508/9/ Parker - How fast? [summary about fossilization rates] http://answersingenesis.org/home/area/cfol/ch3-how-fast.asp Pitman, The Fossil Record * [big overview] http://naturalselection.0catch.com/Files/fossilrecord.html Roth, False Fossils * http://grisda.org/origins/23110.htm	fossils overview (how formed,...) Lindsay - What are fossils? http://don-lindsay-archive.org/creation/fossil_def.html How are fossils found? http://don-lindsay-archive.org/creation/fossil_finding.html Complete fossil record? http://don-lindsay-archive.org/creation/completeness.html The rarity of old fossils http://don-lindsay-archive.org/creation/fossil_rarity.html GM - Non-Catastrophic & Modern Fossilization -- http://home.entouch.net/dmd/fossilization.htm
rapid rock formation Neyman (at right) has responses to these pages, thru Snelling-2005 J.Morris - Are Human Artifacts Ever Petrified? http://icr.org/article/569/153/ Walker - Zippy fossils [overview] http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v27/i2/fossils.asp Walker - Message in a Bottle http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v22/i3/bottle.asp Walker - [fast-forming limestone] http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v20/i4/choking.asp Walker - Petrified Flour http://answersingenesis.org/home/area/magazines/docs/v23n1_flour.asp Wieland - half-petrified fossil http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v5/i1/fossil.asp Snelling-2005 [wood petrification] * AIG YE-claim http://icr.org/article/13/ Snelling-1995) ‘Instant’ Petrified Wood AIG YE-claim http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v17/i4/wood.asp Brown, How Rapidly Can Wood Petrify? * http://grisda.org/origins/05113.htm Maclachlan - Tarawera’s Night of Terror [rapid “petrified fossils”] AIG-YE-claim http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v18/i1/tarawera.asp White - Amazing stone bears of Yorkshire http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v24/i3/stone_bears.asp AIG - [review] http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v21/i1/sandy.asp hat http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v17/i3/fossil_hat.asp fence-wire http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v20/i3/fossil.asp clock AIG-YE-claim http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v19/i3/clock.asp spark plug http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v21/i4/rocks.asp pliers http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v14/i1/pliers.asp keys http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v17/i1/rock_formation.asp bell http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v20/i2/bell.asp waterwheel http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v16/i2/waterwheel.asp	rapid rock formation Fossils can form quickly. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CC/CC361.html Neyman - Are Human Artifacts Ever Petrified? http://answersincreation.org/rebuttal/icr/drjohn/drjohn_154.htm Neyman - [re: zippy fossils] http://answersincreation.org/rebuttal/magazines/Creation/2005/article_v27_i2_fossils.htm Neyman - [re: bottle] http://answersincreation.org/bottle.htm Neyman - [re: fast-forming limestone in carbonate-choked pipes] http://answersincreation.org/rebuttal/magazines/Creation/1998/article_v20_i4_choke.htm Neyman - [re: "petrified" flour] http://answersincreation.org/petrified.htm Neyman - [re: half-petrified fossil] http://answersincreation.org/flinders.htm Neyman [re: wood petrification] http://answersincreation.org/rebuttal/icr/impact/petrified2.htm
wood petrification – fossil forests Sarfati, Yellowstone Petrified Forests * http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v21/i2/yellowstone.asp J. Morris, Yellowstone Petrified Forests * http://icr.org/article/397 Coffin, The Yellowstone Petrified ‘Forests’ [big overview] * http://grisda.org/origins/24002.htm Webster, Questions about Bridgewater Fossil ‘Forest’ * http://grisda.org/origins/23050.htm	wood petrification – fossil forests Yellowstone's Specimen Creek fossil forests were evidently transported. [re: Sarfati] http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CC/CC332.html and [re:J.Morris] http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CC/CC332_1.html and http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CC/CC332_2.html Neyman - Yellowstone Petrified Forests [re: Sarfati] http://answersincreation.org/rebuttal/magazines/Creation/1999/yellowstone.htm EH - Fossil Forests http://www.geocities.com/earthhistory/forests.htm
rapid burial of fossils Wieland - Vanishing giant [why so few fossils?] http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v24/i4/vanishing.asp AIG - Folded ferns http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v18/i4/ferns.asp Vetter - Double tragedies frozen in lime [half-eaten fish,…] http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v12/i4/lime.asp Calais - Rapid fossils [half-eaten] http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v16/i3/fossil.asp McClay - Dino dinner [half-eaten by mammal] hard to swallow? http://answersingenesis.org/docs2005/0121dino_dinner.asp McClay - [buried half-birth] http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v19/i3/birth.asp Catchpoole - [pterosaur inside egg] http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v27/i2/pterosaur.asp AIG - Lily of the sea [crinoid with heads] http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v20/i1/lily.asp Mackay - [shells in context] http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v3/i2/shells.asp Catchpoole - [moulting arthropod] http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v27/i2/moulting.asp Lalomov - [fossil reptiles in Russia] http://answersingenesis.org/tj/v15/i1/russia.asp Hodge & Davis - Two Fighting Dinosaurs? [process of fossilization in sand] http://answersingenesis.org/articles/am/v1/n1/two-fighting-dinosaurs Walker - [well-preserved dinos] http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v26/i3/plesiosaur.asp Sherwin - [jellyfish facts] http://icr.org/article/2479/110/ AIG - [jellyfish in sandstone] http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v4/i2/jellyfish.asp Catchpoole - Hundreds of jellyfish fossils! http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v25/i4/fossils.asp	rapid burial of fossils Fossilization requires sudden burial. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CC/CC363.html Contorted positions of fossil animals indicate rapid burial. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CC/CC361_3.html Mammoths that were quickly frozen have been found. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CC/CC361_2.html Lindsay - rapid burial http://don-lindsay-archive.org/creation/instant.html Morton - delicate insect fossils http://home.entouch.net/dmd/insect.htm Neyman - [re: McClay, buried half-birth - at left] http://answersincreation.org/rebuttal/magazines/Creation/1997/buriedbirth.htm Neyman - [re: Catchpoole, moulting arthropod - at left] http://answersincreation.org/rebuttal/magazines/Creation/2005/article_v27_i2_moulting.htm Neyman - [re: Lalomov, fossil reptiles in Russia - at left] http://answersincreation.org/rebuttal/magazines/TJ/v15/TJ15_tetrapod.htm [re: Hodge & Davis - at left] http://dinocreationistsfairytale.wordpress.com/2007/01/04/davis-and-hodge-podge-over-the-2-fighting-dinosaurs-of-mongolia/
polystrate fossils J.Morris, What are Polystrate Fossils? * http://icr.org/article/1144 J.Morris, The Polystrate and Coal Seams of Joggins Fossil Cliffs * AIG-linked http://icr.org/article/445 Walker & Wieland - Kamikaze ichthyosaur? http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v27/i4/ichthyosaur.asp	polystrate fossils Don Lindsay - http://don-lindsay-archive.org/creation/polystrate.html Neyman - Polystrate Fossils http://answersincreation.org/rebuttal/icr/drjohn/drjohn_81.htm Polystrate fossils indicate massive sudden deposition. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CC/CC331.html TO (MacRae) - "Polystrate" Tree Fossils http://talkorigins.org/faqs/polystrate/trees.html A fossil whale was found vertically through several strata. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CC/CC335.html TO (South) - ["polystrate" whale] http://talkorigins.org/faqs/polystrate/whale.html Neyman - [re: kamikaze ichthyosaur - at left] http://answersincreation.org/rebuttal/magazines/Creation/2005/article_v27_i4_ichthyosaur.htm [also check Varves - especially Morton-3 and Henke at end]
rapid burial — large collections of fossils Oard - [dead whales in diatomite] http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v26/i4/whales.asp Snelling - [Fossil Insect Bed] AIG-linked http://icr.org/article/474 Hoesch & Austin - ...Jurassic Jumble? AIG-linked http://icr.org/article/106/10/ Woodmorappe, The Karoo Vertebrate Nonproblem * http://answersingenesis.org/Home/area/magazines/TJ/TJv14n2_KarooNon.pdf Snelling - [crinoids,... in fossil graveyard] http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v20/i3/burial.asp Weston - La Brea Tar Pits, Parts 1-3 http://creationresearch.org/crsq/articles/38/38_4/LaBrea.htm http://creationresearch.org/crsq/articles/39/39_3/LaBrea.htm http://creationresearch.org/crsq/articles/40/40_1/LaBrea3.htm	rapid burial — large collections of fossils Large collections of fossils indicate catastrophism. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CC/CC362.html Neyman - [re: Insect Fossil Bed - at left] http://answersincreation.org/rebuttal/icr/impact/insectbed.htm Neyman - [re: dead whales in diatomite - at left] http://answersincreation.org/rebuttal/magazines/Creation/2004/article_v26_4_whales.htm Morton - [number of fossils] http://home.entouch.net/dmd/toomanyanimals.htm
seashells on mountain-tops Catchpoole - Giant Oysters on Mountain http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v24/i2/oysters.asp	seashells on mountain-tops The flood deposited seashells high upon mountaintops http://answersincreation.org/argument/N4341_creation_science.htm Sea fossils have been found on mountaintops. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CC/CC364.html
fossils in Grand Canyon Parker - [Grand Canyon, a mix, re: fossils & much more] http://answersingenesis.org/home/area/cfol/ch3-grand-canyon.asp [ed: I'm sure there are other YE pages about this, or fossils are mixed with other GC-topics, as in Parker's page]	fossils in Grand Canyon Neyman - review-GrCanyon (fossils) Ch 7 http://answersincreation.org/bookreview/monument/c7.htm
stratigraphy-patterns in small fossils (ammonites,...) Tosk, Foraminifers in the Fossil Record * http://grisda.org/origins/15008.htm AIG - [do ammonoids become more complex?] http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v20/i2/fossils.asp Sherwin - Ammonite Evolution? http://icr.org/article/27/10/	stratigraphy-patterns in small fossils (foraminifera, pollen,...) Morton - Microfossil Stratigraphy [study this page!] http://home.entouch.net/dmd/micro.htm [here are some comments, to accompany the WHEN-and-HOW introduction above: in this page the "evolution" is small-scale with only small differences between successive species, with the types of small change that are accepted by young-earth creationists; the main claim of this page is that the observed fossil pattern would not occur in a young-earth global flood, but is consistent with an old earth] EH - fossil patterns [of foraminifera] http://www.geocities.com/earthhistory/sle.htm G.Morton - Pollen Order Presents Problems for the Flood http://home.entouch.net/dmd/pollen.htm Isotopic Sorting ["fossil patterns" logic] http://www.geocities.com/earthhistory/iso.htm
stratigraphy-patterns in fossils Woodmorappe - [Fossil Record Becoming More Random] * http://answersingenesis.org/home/area/magazines/tj/v14n1_fossil-rec.asp Oard - How Well Do Paleontologists Know Fossil Distributions? http://answersingenesis.org/tj/v14/i1/fossils.asp Oard - [circular reasoning] http://answersingenesis.org/tj/v15/i2/circular.asp Gibson, Analysis of Fossil Patterns * http://grisda.org/origins/23068.htm Walker - [slow fish get buried] http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v22/i3/show_fish.asp AIG - [platypus only in Australia?] http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v14/i1/platypus.asp Wise, Punctuated Equilibria Creation Style * http://grisda.org/origins/16011.htm	stratigraphy-patterns in fossils Fossils are sorted hydrologically http://answersincreation.org/argument/N4332_creation_science.htm Fossils are sorted by ecological zonation http://answersincreation.org/argument/N4331_creation_science.htm Fossils are sorted by the ability to escape http://answersincreation.org/argument/N4333_creation_science.htm Fossils are sorted by ecological zonation. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CH/CH561_1.html Fossils are sorted hydrologically. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CH/CH561_2.html Fossils are sorted by the ability to escape. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CH/CH561_3.html Fossils are sorted by a combination of these factors. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CH/CH561_4.html Fossils are dated from strata, strata are dated from fossils. [circularity] http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CC/CC310.html Many fossils are out of place. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CC/CC340.html Neyman - [re: Fossil Record Becoming More Random - at left] http://answersincreation.org/fossilrecord.htm GM - [fish-problems for the flood] http://home.entouch.net/dmd/fish.htm GM - [increasing complexity] http://home.entouch.net/dmd/celltype.htm GM - [fossil patterns] http://home.entouch.net/dmd/whereanimals.htm GM - Fleeing from the Flood [ed-comment: but YECs also propose ecological zonation,...] http://home.entouch.net/dmd/flee.htm GM - rock properties & fossil age http://home.entouch.net/dmd/rockprop.htm EH - Fossils [details] http://www.geocities.com/earthhistory/ff.htm Neyman - Ham Can't Tell the Simple Truth! [re: fossil patterns,…] http://answersincreation.org/rebuttal/aig/daily/2005/20050912_ham_truth.htm
pollen in old rocks [ed: Has this argument been abandoned by YE because, as explained by TO & Henke, the collection of pollen wasn't done well?]	pollen in old rocks Recent pollen has been found in old rocks. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CC/CC341.html Henke - [pollen due to contamination?] http://answersincreation.org/henke_burdick_pollen.htm Neyman - Fossil Pollen in Grand Canyon Overturns Plant Evolution [ed: he doesn't mention possibility of contamination] http://answersincreation.org/rebuttal/magazines/Creation/1989/pollen.htm
organic material (dino blood,...) in old layers Snelling - [Mud Springs surprise] http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v19/i2/surprise.asp Sherwin - Devastating Issue of Dinosaur Tissue http://icr.org/article/2033/78/ Wieland - Sensational dinosaur blood report! http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v19/i4/blood.asp Wieland - [fossilization process] http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v21/i1/dinosaurbones.asp Wieland [letter & response] http://answersingenesis.org/docs2002/0325RBCs.asp Wieland - [TRex tissue] http://answersingenesis.org/docs2005/0325Dino_tissue.asp 3. Wieland - Squirming at the Squishosaur http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs2005/0516squishosaur.asp AIG - [TRex bone] http://answersingenesis.org/docs2006/0306AAAS.asp Helder - [fresh dino bones] http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v14/i3/dinosaurbones.asp	organic material (dino blood,...) in old layers Jurassic shells from mud springs are remarkably preserved. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CC/CC373.html Neyman - [re: Mud Springs surprise - at left] http://answersincreation.org/rebuttal/magazines/Creation/1997/mudspring.htm Evidence of blood in a Tyrannosaurus bone indicates recent burial. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CC/CC371.html Soft tissues from a Tyrannosaurus bone indicate recent burial. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CC/CC371_1.html Dinosaur Soft Tissue in T. rex Bones http://godandscience.org/youngearth/dinoblood.html TO-faq (Hurd) - Dino-blood and the Young Earth - http://talkorigins.org/faqs/dinosaur/blood.html TO (Hurd) - Dino Blood Redux (facts, media,...) http://talkorigins.org/faqs/dinosaur/flesh.html Greg Moore -- 1. http://reasons.org/resources/apologetics/dinosaur_blood.shtml 2. http://reasons.org/resources/apologetics/dinosaur_blood_revisited.shtml 3. Wieland- [re: Squirming at the Squishosaur - at left] 4. http://reasons.org/resources/apologetics/greg_moore_carl_wielands_squishosaur.shtml Neyman (2003) - T-Rex Blood http://answersincreation.org/rebuttal/magazines/Creation/1997/trexblood.htm Neyman (2005) - T-Rex Soft Tissue http://answersincreation.org/trex_soft_tissue.htm Neyman (2006) - More TRex Claims http://answersincreation.org/rebuttal/aig/daily/2006/20060306_trex.htm TO - osteocalcin - Ancient Molecules and Modern Myths - http://talkorigins.org/faqs/dinosaur/osteocalcin.html
bacteria in old salt, life in old rocks AIG - Salty Saga http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v23/i4/saltysaga.asp van der Heide, Bacterial Life in Ancient Salt * http://answersingenesis.org/Home/Area/Magazines/tj/docs/v16n2_bacteria.asp Roth, Life in Deep Rocks... * http://grisda.org/origins/19093.htm Tyler, Are Stromatolites Really Fossils? * http://www.biblicalcreation.org.uk/scientific_issues/bcs075.html	bacteria in old salt
young DNA in old layers Wieland - [old DNA] http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v14/i3/fossil.asp AIG (1991) - [old DNA] http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v13/i2/dna.asp Pitman - [overview] * http://naturalselection.0catch.com/Files/fossilizeddna.html Criswell - How Soon Will Jurassic Park Open? http://icr.org/article/2817/67/ Sherwin - Amber: Window to Recent Past AIG-linked http://icr.org/article/2824/9/ Brown [intro + abstracts, re: old DNA] * http://www.mhrc.net/ancientDNA.htm	young DNA in old layers
dinosaur footprints Oard - footsteps of giants http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v25/i2/footsteps.asp Brand & Florence, Stratigraphic Distribution of Footprints & Body Fossils * http://grisda.org/origins/09067.htm	dinosaur footprints Footprints in the Coconino were made underwater http://answersincreation.org/argument/G312_creation_science.htm Footprints in the Coconino Sandstone appear to have been made underwater. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CC/CC365.html Kuban - Overview of DinoTracking http://paleo.cc/paluxy/ovrdino.htm Neyman [re: Brand & Florence, at left] http://answersincreation.org/trackways.htm TO (MacRae) - DinoPrints in Coal [is the argument clear?] http://talkorigins.org/faqs/coalprints.html
Paluxy tracks — humans & dinos together J.Morris - The Paluxy River Mystery http://icr.org/article/255 AIG - says this argument — that "Paluxy tracks prove that humans and dinosaurs co-existed" — "definitely should not be used." http://answersingenesis.org/home/area/faq/dont_use.asp#paluxy	Paluxy tracks — humans & dinos together Human footprints have been found with dinosaur tracks at Paluxy. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CC/CC101.html Lindsay - Glen Rose Man http://don-lindsay-archive.org/creation/glen_rose_man.html Neyman [overview + links] http://answersincreation.org/rebuttal/cem/cem.htm TO (Kuban) [intro + 20 links] http://talkorigins.org/faqs/paluxy.html Kuban [intro + 60 links] http://paleo.cc/paluxy.htm
human fossils (and footprints) J.Morris, Why Don't We Find More Human Fossils? * http://icr.org/article/1103/ AIG-ABook, Ch 15 - Where are all the human fossils? http://answersingenesis.org/docs2/4419.asp Snelling - Where Are All the Human Fossils? * http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v14/i1/humanfossils.asp and (with two intro-paragraphs plus dictionary-links) http://christiananswers.net/q-aig/aig-c014.html Menton - [human prints] http://answersingenesis.org/docs2006/0130mexican_footprints.asp	human fossils (and footprints) Neyman - [re: J.Morris, at left] http://answersincreation.org/rebuttal/icr/drjohn/drjohn_37.htm Neyman - [re: ABook, at left] http://answersincreation.org/bookreview/answersbook/abc15.htm and another! [re: ABook, at left] http://answersincreation.org/humanfossils.htm Neyman - [re: Menton, at left] http://answersincreation.org/rebuttal/aig/daily/2006/20060130_mexican_footprints.htm Human fossils are out of place. [with 8 pages under CC100 http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/list.html#CC100 including this one: Moab man was found in Cretaceous sandstone. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CC/CC110.html Neyman - Moab Man http://answersincreation.org/moab_man.htm
humans & dinos together J.Morris - [dinos after the flood] http://www.icr.org/article/1118/ Hodge - ...why don’t we find human fossils with dinosaur fossils? http://answersingenesis.org/articles/am/v1/n1/humans-and-dinosaurs Swift - Messages on Stone http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v19/i2/stone.asp Driver - [aborigines & dinos] http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v21/i1/aborigines.asp Cole - [dinos in Cambodia] http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs2007/0115angkor.asp Gibbons - [dinos in Congo?] http://www.icr.org/article/306/7/ AIG says an argument — that "the Castenedolo and Calaveras human remains in ‘old’ strata invalidate the geologic column" — "definitely should not be used." http://answersingenesis.org/home/area/faq/dont_use.asp#calaveras	humans & dinos together Humans and dinosaurs once lived together. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CH/CH710.html with 8 pages about sub-claims, http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/list.html#CH700 Neyman - [re: dinos after the flood, at left] http://answersincreation.org/rebuttal/icr/drjohn/drjohn_53.htm Neyman - [re: Messages on Stone, at left] http://answersincreation.org/rebuttal/magazines/Creation/1997/pioneers.htm Neyman - [re: aborigines & dinos, at left] http://answersincreation.org/rebuttal/magazines/Creation/1998/aboriginal.htm Neyman - [re: dinos in Cambodia, at left] http://answersincreation.org/rebuttal/aig/daily/2007/20070115_dinosaur.htm
dinosaurs Ham - [taking dinos back] http://answersingenesis.org/us/newsletters/0505lead.asp AIG-ABook (Ch 19) - What happened to the dinosaurs? http://answersingenesis.org/home/Area/AnswersBook/dinosaurs19.asp Kennedy, The Intriguing Dinosaur * http://grisda.org/resources/dialogue_0509.htm J.Morris - Did Dinos Hunt in Packs? [reconstructions] http://icr.org/article/762/9/ Barnhart, Dinosaur Nests Reinterpreted * http://creationresearch.org/crsq/articles/41/41_2/Dinotests.htm Baker - Sea Dragons AIG-linked http://icr.org/article/119	dinosaurs Neyman - [re: taking dinos back] http://answersincreation.org/rebuttal/aig/daily/2005/20050509_takingdinos.htm Neyman - [re: ABook Ch 19] http://answersincreation.org/bookreview/answersbook/abc19.htm Neyman - dinos & age (print-flyer) http://answersincreation.org/Dino_Flyer.PDF Neyman - dino-life during flood http://answersincreation.org/poop.htm Neyman - [re: dino-book by Ham] http://answersincreation.org/bookreview/dino_mystery/the_great_dinosaur_mystery_solved.htm Neyman - [dino-claims by Hovind] http://answersincreation.org/drdino.htm Neyman - in his dino-links page ( http://answersincreation.org/dino.htm ) some resources are omitted (because they don't seem age-relevant) and so are sections about “Dinosaurs in the News” and “Best Dinosaur Websites on the Internet”. In these omissions, did I miss anything useful?
living fossils H.Morris - The Profusion of Living Fossils http://www.icr.org/article/774/ Catchpoole - "Living Fossils" Enigma http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v22/i2/living_fossil.asp	living fossils [Are these claims - and those about "living plesiosaurs" by Hovind, below - relevant for questions about age, or only for evolution?] [for example, older versions of a species are in lower layers, but if there are no older versions this OE argument is defeated] Neyman - Living Fossils http://answersincreation.org/livingfossil.htm Morton - living fossils http://home.entouch.net/dmd/livfos.htm Some fossil species are still living. http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CB/CB930.html with 4 claims at "CB930" in http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/list.html#CB900
dinos alive now — plesiosaurs as living fossils AIG - says this argument — that "the Japanese trawler Zuiyo Maru caught a dead plesiosaur near New Zealand" — "definitely should not be used." http://answersingenesis.org/home/area/faq/dont_use.asp#plesiosaur	dinos alive now — plesiosaurs as living fossils Neyman - [plesiosaurs - does only Hovind claim this?] http://answersincreation.org/plesiosaur.htm and [on Hovind's website] http://answersincreation.org/rebuttal/cse/cse_moores_beach_plesiosaur.htm
dinosaur extinction Sarfati, Did Meteor Wipe Out Dinosaurs? * http://answersingenesis.org/home/area/faq/docs/dino_meteor.asp Wieland - [review of OE-book that criticizes theory proposing dino-extinction by meteor] * http://answersingenesis.org/tj/v12/i2/dinosaur.asp DeYoung - [many dino-demise theories] * http://icr.org/article/453 Matthews - [changes in demise theories] http://answersingenesis.org/docs2002/1115dinosaur.asp Oard - [big overview] http://answersingenesis.org/tj/v11/i2/dinosaur.asp Oard - [dinos lived longer than OE thinks] http://answersingenesis.org/tj/v17/i3/dinosaurs.asp Oard, The Extinction of Dinosaurs * http://answersingenesis.org/home/area/magazines/TJ/docs/tjv11n2_extinct.pdf AIG-news: [crater & demise] http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v12/i3/news.asp Don’t blame asteroid http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v26/i1/focus.asp [...volcanoes killing dinos] http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v22/i1/focus.asp	dinosaur extinction Neyman - dinosaur extinction - http://answersincreation.org/rebuttal/magazines/TJ/TJ11_dinosaur_extinction.htm Neyman - What Happened to the Dinosaurs? [hovind] http://answersincreation.org/rebuttal/cse/cse_dinosaur_whitmore.htm
mammoths (in ice age?) AIG - "Mr. Ice Age" solves woolly mammoth mystery http://answersingenesis.org/docs2/4401tjmammoth11-08-2000.asp Sarfati - Mammoth: Riddle of the Ice Age http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v22/i2/mammoth.asp AIG - Millions of Mammoth Fossils http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v21/i4/mammoth.asp AIG - says one argument — that "woolly mammoths were flash frozen during the Flood catastrophe" — "definitely should not be used." http://answersingenesis.org/home/area/faq/dont_use.asp#mammoth Oard - Comment on [Discovery Channel's] Land of the Mammoth http://answersingenesis.org/docs2001/0316news.asp Oard, The Extinction of the Wooly Mammoth: Was It a Quick Freeze? * http://answersingenesis.org/Home/Area/Magazines/tj/docs/tj14_3-mo_mammoth.pdf Oard - The Great Mammoth Mystery...SOLVED! (intro + webcast) http://answersingenesis.org/home/area/webcasts/mammoth/mammoth.asp mammoths (still alive? recently alive?) & people AIG - Are mammoths still alive? http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v15/i4/mammoths.asp Wieland - ‘Lost world’ animals... found! http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v19/i1/lostworld.asp Swift - Mammoth among the pharoahs? http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v19/i4/mammoth.asp AIG - Mammoth Tusk Boomerang http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v17/i4/focus.asp#tusk	review of Frozen in Ice -- mammoths (and humans) 1. mammoths intro - http://answersincreation.org/bookreview/frozen/frozen_in_time_1.htm 2. mammoths (why in Siberia?) http://answersincreation.org/bookreview/frozen/frozen_in_time_2.htm 4. mammoth mysteries - http://answersincreation.org/bookreview/frozen/frozen_in_time_4.htm 5. extinctions at end of IceAge - http://answersincreation.org/bookreview/frozen/frozen_in_time_5.htm 13. humans in I.A. - http://answersincreation.org/bookreview/frozen/frozen_in_time_13.htm 14. mammoths thrive in I.A. - http://answersincreation.org/bookreview/frozen/frozen_in_time_14.htm 15. mammoths quick-frozen - http://answersincreation.org/bookreview/frozen/frozen_in_time_15.htm 16. mammoths extinctions - http://answersincreation.org/bookreview/frozen/frozen_in_time_16.htm